October 6th, 2008
Who was the first female golfer to break 60 in the LPGA?
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October 6th, 2008 at 4:42 am
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761570500_2/golf.html
The first clubs established outside Britain were in India, at the Calcutta Golf Club of East India (1829) and the Royal Bombay Club (1842). The first golf club established in the Western Hemisphere was Canada’s Royal Montréal Golf Club, founded in 1873. It is believed by some that golf was played in North America during the colonial period (17th and 18th centuries), but no documented proof of this has been advanced.
Needless to say, I and my encyclopedia disagree with you on today’s answer.
Chris
October 6th, 2008 at 6:46 am
For some reason or another, I found India to be the first to form a golf club outside of the U.K. in 1829. (The Calcutta Golf Club in East India) The first golf club in the U.S. was formed in 1888. (The Saint Andrews Golf Club of Yonkers N.Y.)
In the 18th century the first golf associations were established. They included the Honourable Company of Edinburgh Golfers (founded 1744) in Edinburgh, Scotland; the Saint Andrews Society of Golfers (1754) in Saint Andrews, Scotland, which in 1834 took its present name, the Royal and Ancient Golf Club of Saint Andrews; and the Royal Blackheath (1766), near London, England, where, according to tradition, golf was introduced to England in 1608. The first clubs established outside Britain were in India, at the Calcutta Golf Club of East India (1829) and the Royal Bombay Club (1842). The first golf club established in the Western Hemisphere was Canada’s Royal Montréal Golf Club, founded in 1873. It is believed by some that golf was played in North America during the colonial period (17th and 18th centuries), but no documented proof of this has been advanced. In 1888 the Saint Andrew’s Golf Club of Yonkers, New York, was established. Most authorities agree that this is the oldest continuously existing golf club in the United States.
October 6th, 2008 at 8:35 am
India was the first country outside Great Britain to take up the game of golf. The Royal Calcutta Golf Club, established in 1829, is the oldest golf club in India and the first outside Great Britain. I’m afraid GN blew another one.
October 6th, 2008 at 8:44 am
according to britannica the first official golf club outside the united kingdom was the royal calcutta golf club in India. the one in south carolina was possibly an indoor game called kolf.
October 6th, 2008 at 9:11 am
We have several comments regarding the answer to today’s trivia question. All of our mulitple sources indicate that the South Carolina Golf Club was formed in Charleston in 1786, which is over 40 years earlier than the Royal Calcutta Golf Club in India. Our sources include the book “It Happened in South Carolina”, and these are just a few of the many websites we referenced:
http://www.discovercharleston.com/golf/, http://www.linksmagazine.com/special_sections/history_of_golf_in_south_carolina.aspx and http://www.southcarolinahomes.net/golf/golf-jack-nicklaus.php. Given the number of sources that all confirm the date that the club was formed, we have no reason to doubt the accuracy of the information.
October 6th, 2008 at 10:09 am
reference http://www.golfeurope.com/almanac/history
A History of Golf since 1497
Golf Goes International
The British Empire was at it’s pinnacle during the 19th century. Indeed the phrase ‘the sun never sets on the empire’ was coined to reflect Britain’s world-wide influence. Most of the early golf clubs outside the British Isles and America were formed throughout the Commonwealth.
The first golf club formed outside Scotland was Royal Blackheath (near London) in 1766. However golf is believed to have been played there since 1608. The first golf club outside Britain was the Bangalore, India (1820). Others were the Royal Calcutta (1829), Royal Bombay (1842), Royal Curragh, Ireland (1856), the Pau, France (1856), the Adelaide (1870), Royal Montreal (1873), Cape Town (1885), St Andrew’s of New York (1888) and Royal Hong Kong (1889). Some say that the South Carolina Golf Club, Charlestown of 1786 precedes all of these.
The Victorian Industrial Revolution brought with it many social and economic changes. The growth of the railways gave birth to the mass tourism industry. For the first time, ordinary people could explore the country as day-trippers or weekend visitors. Golf clubs popped up all over the country and people could enjoy the challenge of playing a different one every weekend.
Hitherto golf equipment was handcrafted and therefore expensive. Golf was therefore the preserve of the affluent. Once metal club heads and shafts and gutta percha balls (1848) began rolling off the production lines, the average person was able to afford to play golf. Both of these factors directly contributed to the phenomenal growth of golf.
October 6th, 2008 at 11:59 am
All of your multiple sources all have the words south carolina in them. using the dubious unfounded non reliable claim that some clubs were MAYBE shipped there, according to dubious South Carolina references. Reputable sources, like encyclopedias, all refer to India as being the first place outside South Carolina. My sources tell me that the clubs shipped to South Carolina were just used to beat the slaves, and no actual golf “club” ever existed.
As a matter of fact, your first reference says “However, the nation’s first golf club did not enjoy the nation’s first golf course. In fact, the South Carolina Golf Club had no course at all. ” Yeah, thats a real golf club, with no course. I assume they just went out and beat the slaves with the clubs, since they had no course. Makes you wonder what kind of handicap system they used. And that’s a quote from your own reference.
Chris
October 6th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
I would like a reply on my winning on Oct 2nd…thx DK
October 6th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Yes, and they are all South Carolina-based sites, all of which are quoting each other!
October 6th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
http://www.finleyongolf.com/articles/TheEarlyHistoryofGolf.htm
One such Scot, David Deas, who ran a store on East Bay Street received a shipment in 1743 from the Port of Leith, Scotland which included 96 golf clubs and 432 balls. The written accounts of this golf association portray the organization as primarily social which certainly seems appropriate for this gay, port city. The group would meet periodically at Harleston’s Green, in the area between what is now Calhoun and Bull streets, east of Rutledge. They would dig a few holes and hit the little ball around. These gatherings were mostly an opportunity for the ladies and gentlemen to join together in fellowship, to spin yarns and enjoy good food and drink. Their “club house” was William’s Coffee House where they held their meetings. There is no evidence that a regular, permanent site course designated for golf existed at this period of time in Charleston
I have to disagree with yesterday’s answer. If you can have a golf club without a golf course, then I am a charter member of the Trump Billionaire’s Club. Nice PR stuff from the state of SC, making a mountain out of a molehill but what is documented is NOT a “golf club”.
October 6th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
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