Rated 2 out of 5 by jmcantor The Big Miss
Having played Carm Mtn Ranch dozens and dozens of times in the past, I was looking forward to the recent conversion to a desert-style course. I applaud removal of useless turf and replacement with bark and native grasses (pampus or similar). The fairways and rough conditions are indeed much improved. However, some very bad decisions were made that unfortunately made the conversion a big miss. Some of these could be fixed, but others are permanent. (1) The biggest and saddest mistake was the removal of probably 50-100 large trees, which destroyed the look of the neighborhood, and took away any remaining shade. I understand the need to removed a few trees that prevented grass growth near greens and to bring wind into play more. However, the trees on the fairways were an important challenge for the game, and the ones near the tee boxes provided critical shade to players waiting during a slow round. Note that most good desert courses have trees near tee boxes. Sadly, even the beautiful trees in front of the clubhouse are gone. I know that lowering water use was a goal, but too many critical trees were removed. Unfortunately, this would take many years to remedy. (2) The native plantings in the decorative bark ground cover are oddly distributed and somewhat poorly chosen. Fortunately, with a lot of work, this could be fixed. Some large, impressive pampas-style grasses with different colors would be fantastic. Many of the current plants appear ready to die and are unlikely to add much visual appeal. For an example of nice plantings on converted golf turf, see Eastlake #6 with the reddish pampas plantings, which look amazing! (3) Why was at least one thermos removed at hole #3??? - This can be fixed however.
(4) The new "desert" waste areas that flank the fairways on almost every hold need to be re-done. On real desert courses, there are rocks, sandy soil, and often desert plants that resist erosion. This has none of the above and will suffer greatly upon every rain. The recent downpour made HUGE ditches that make it extremely bumpy to enter the fairway. Carts or players will end up getting injured. The light sprinkling of DG is not going to work. (5) The cart paths are apparently in the process of being relocated??? or something. It is confusing where to drive, and at least one hole has no cart path. This needs to be completed ASAP before major rains this winter. #15 and #16 are good examples.
I'm bummed to see an excellent opportunity be missed. The excessive tree removal cant be reversed, but with a major effort, the other missteps can be addressed to make this a great course.
August 18, 2015
Rated 4 out of 5 by Golf4David Greens were challenging but in great shape
This was a moderately challengin course in great condition. Great pace lots of fun. On this particular day it was unusally hot there was not beverage cart not water on the course. Brutal!
August 16, 2015
Rated 4 out of 5 by Megan456 course conditions
overall the course is in good conditions, greens true and fast. some areas that has had grass removed is washed out from last rain need to work on ground cover to make these areas playable.
August 1, 2015
Rated 3 out of 5 by mparns Not Bad
...but not great overall. Course in good condition, just not a huge fan of the overall layout. Good value for the $ though
July 31, 2015
Rated 4 out of 5 by Bubbas1 It was a fun time with my son
Everything was great will be back next time when I am in town
June 22, 2015
Rated 3 out of 5 by jjaneliunas Overall nice course
Overall nice course. Greens were in good shape. Tee boxes are hard as a rock so bring a hammer to get your tee in the ground. Usually pace of play is pretty good however this it was extremely slow. There was a ranger on the course but all he said is there is nothing he could do. My buddy and I left after 4 1/2 hours. We were on number 15.
June 22, 2015
Rated 4 out of 5 by ferrez Plenty of challenging features
Need to play couple more times to familiarize with the layout. It was fun to play this course!
June 16, 2015
Rated 4 out of 5 by Norm4335634 Another great JC course!
since JC has taken over, I have seen many improvements. The desert course design can be challenging and rewarding. I do recommend to bring an old iron or 2 in case you have to play off the d.g. areas, you won't want to scratch up a newer club.
June 16, 2015